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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:37 pm 
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Marami na tayong nababasa na hindi magandang ugali ng Pinoy (o Pinay) na kapag mataas ang position sa ibang bansa, akala mo kung sino na... siguro, talagang may mga bangaw na nakatungtong lang sa kalabaw ay mas mataas na sila sa kalabaw... pero mayroon din naman na mga bangaw na nanatiling bangaw, at 'yung ibang bangaw lang talaga ang may problema...

Sometimes, we have to look that kind of relationship-problem at different angle... sila nga ba ang may problema o 'yung mga subordinate nila na umaasa ng special treatment for being Filipino too...

I believe this is a good topic to discuss, lalo na doon sa mga baguhan o kahit hindi baguhan na laging may ganitong problema...

First, kung problema sa pakikisama sa ibang nationality or worst, sa kapwa Pilipino ang problema natin, that kind of problem is existed anywhere... kahit saang bansa tayo mapunta, kahit sinong employer at kahit anong trabaho natin, as long na may makakasama tayong ibang tao, there will always be a conflict...

Nasa individual person na lang kung paano s'ya mag-a-adjust, kung paano n'ya haharapin o kung paano n'ya i-ignore 'yung mga ganitong problema... kahit sa Pilipinas naman, problema pa din natin madalas kung paano pakikisamahan 'yung boss natin na sobrang higpit (na siguradong Pinoy o Pinay)... ilang beses na ba tayong lumipat ng ibang trabaho sa Pilipinas dahil sa hindi natin makasundo ang ating boss (na Pinoy o Pinay din)?... nae-emphasize lang na kapag Pinoy o Pinay ang supervisor natin sa ibang bansa, mas mahirap pakisamahan dahil sa ine-expect natin na dapat makisama 'yung mga Pinoy (o Pinay) na mas ahead sa atin (instead of the other way around i.e. sila ang dapat nating tulungan at suportahan)... in job, the line of responsibility and authority should still remain the same, nasa Pilipinas man tayo o ibang bansa... meaning, kapag mas mataas sa atin ang position, regardless it is Filipino or not, we have to respect him/her as we will give to other nationalities having the same position... kung makikisama s'ya sa atin na mas mababa ang position, better (at hindi natin dapat ito abusihin)... kung hindi naman s'ya makikisama sa atin, that is still OK as long na professionally n'yang ginagampanan 'yung kanyang trabaho e.g. kung may nagawa tayong labag sa policy at regulasyon ng kumpanya, at pinatawan tayo ng disciplinary action courtesy of our Pinoy (or Pinay) supervisor, that is not unfair o 'yung masasabi nating mataas na ang ihi dahil sa bisor s'ya... he/she is just simply doing his/her job...

The problem with most common OFW's (I said "most" not "all) na under nang isang Filipino supervisor is, they expect that Filipino supervisor to be always in favor of them and give them special treatment because they are Filipinos (too)... with this attitude, we are lowering our values as skilled and professional workers dahil sa inile-level natin lahat ang Pilipino sa atin regardless of their position and status... instead of respecting our supervisors or heads, regardless they are Filipinos or not... kahit pa nga nasasabi natin na mas magaling tayo sa kanila... we have to follow the protocol and respect it...

Kung hindi kaya o hindi masikmura na under tayo ng ating kapwa Pinoy, find another job... huwag na lang natin hataking pababa 'yung kapwa natin Pilipino na ginagampanan lang 'yung kanyang trabaho...

Kayo, ano ang pananaw ninyo sa ganitong aspeto?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:12 pm 
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blame the people and blame the church, blame the church for saying “all men are created equal” and blame those people for taking it literally.

isa yan sa mga problema ng mga ofws na hindi maiiwasan, lalo na kapag ikaw ang nasa itaas, i absolutely agree with your statement, ang gusto kasi ng ibang ofws, kapag pilipino ka, mas iprioritize ka, i always let my indian colleagues handle pinoys, even if its customers or officemates, kasi pag hindi mo sila pinagbigyan, sasama ang loob at madami na agad sasabihin sa yo, in other words, mga balat-sibuyas.

i am still lucky, wala akong kasamang pinoy sa office, all of them are working either in workshop or mechanic department, i am always asked by my colleagues kung hindi ako nalulungkot dahil ako lang ang filipino sa office at yung iba nakakapagkwentuhan habang nasa trabaho dahil magkakasama sila sa iisang department, i came here to work, not to chat, at may social life naman ako, pero after work, hindi dapat pagsamahin ang social life sa trabaho, imo.

based from personal experience, may isang pinoy na gustong kumuha ng loan before going vacation, i didn’t approve his loan because i know he’s not coming back and just wants to take the money and disappear, pinamalita agad sa mga kasamahan at kapitbahay na wala akong pakisama, i told him to look for a guarantor para iapprove yung loan nya, ayaw din sya tulungan ng mga kasama namin, even pinoys sa company. before leaving, nagbanta pa na aabangan daw pag-uwi namin at ipapagulpi sa airport pa lang, i just laughed in front of his face and said “no problem”, this is a true story, i’m sure kilala din ni dark kung sino tinutukoy ko. :lol:

hindi ko pwede sabihin na hinahatak nila pababa ang mga kasama nila, siguro talaga lang tumatak sa isip nila na "lahat ng tao pantay-pantay", well, kung yan ang paniniwala nila, so be it, try to make a fortune in what you believe in. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:54 pm 
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kilala ko ba to spell? pm mo nga hindi ko mahulaan eh.


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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:18 pm 
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spellcaster wrote:
blame the people and blame the church, blame the church for saying “all men are created equal” and blame those people for taking it literally.

hindi ko pwede sabihin na hinahatak nila pababa ang mga kasama nila, siguro talaga lang tumatak sa isip nila na "lahat ng tao pantay-pantay", well, kung yan ang paniniwala nila, so be it, try to make a fortune in what you believe in. :lol:


Comment ko lang...church can say something but the Bible has the the authority to say the truth....yong turo na lahat tayo equal is not the statement of equal status or equal brain logical thinking but it’s about equal of where we come from and where we are going… from dust to dust.

Yong sabi sa bibliya na equal is about Jesus who save us neither Indian or Filipino its says for all human being at di para sa hayop….means salvation comes for all of us.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus.


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:03 am 
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totoo talaga iyan, maganda lang ang position at malaki ang kita akala mo kung sino na maka-asta, lalo na iyong galing sa hirap at nakapag boyfriend ng may pera sa ibang bansa. noong una matutuwa ka na may pinoy kang kasama sa work pero, it would be better to work alone kaysa akala mong mapagkatiwalaan mo tapos hihilain ka pala pababa. the funny thing is lahat ng lalaki dito nagpapakilalang single! :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:46 am 
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totoo talaga iyan, maganda lang ang position at malaki ang kita akala mo kung sino na maka-asta, lalo na iyong galing sa hirap at nakapag boyfriend ng may pera sa ibang bansa. noong una matutuwa ka na may pinoy kang kasama sa work pero, it would be better to work alone kaysa akala mong mapagkatiwalaan mo tapos hihilain ka pala pababa. the funny thing is lahat ng lalaki dito nagpapakilalang single! :lol:



^_^ may ganun lahat bah single maam ?ihihihihihi any way tama ka pero case to case din yan dito sa work maayos pakikisama namin manager , supervisors sabi nga nila cno ba hindi mag tulong tulongan kung hindi kami kapwa pilipino...


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:39 am 
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Maganda ang topic na to kasi base on my experience at base na din sa mga negative attitude nating mga pinoy na sinsabing namana natin sa mga bansang sumakop sa atin tulad ng maniana habit sa nga espanol , ung talangka mentality ewan kung kanino un galing pro ito ang napapansin ko pag nasa taas ang pinoy ang kapwa pa pinoy ang humihila sa kanya pababa...


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:03 pm 
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To be honest, the "talangka mentality" is not really exclusively only in Filipino culture... it is everywhere... kahit ang mga puti, negro, or even mga Arabo, they have people who got this kind of attitude... and sometimes, even worst than what we have...
Sabi nga nila, sensitive daw kasi tayong mga Pinoy kaya we are easily hurt by not-so-good reality... and our culture is so family-attached oriented culture na kapag nasa ibang bansa na tayo, we expect na 'yung kapwa nating Pilipino ay ituturing na tayong kapamilya, kapuso o kapatid... and when that thing doesn't happen, we easily depressed... think about this, bakit kapag mga ibang lahi na ang humahatak sa ating pababa, we still hate those guys, but we can tolerate them more than kung kapwa Pinoy na natin ang gumawa sa atin 'non... our culture has probably an advantage kumpara sa ibang kultura... unfortunately, it has also disadvantages...

With regards to issue na "single", let's face it... marami sa babae (I want to emphasize this, as I said "marami" not "all of them"), na if you can read their mind the moment they ask the guy they like, whether he is single of not, she keeps saying to her mind "please say, you are still single, please..." so, those guys who keeps saying they are single are probably good mind readers... :shifty:


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:17 pm 
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kawawa naman ang mga talangka, kinumpara na sa mga pinoy.

hindi naman talaga sila naghihilahan pababa eh, nag-uunahan sila umakyat, ikaw ba naman ang pakuluan eh, hindi ka ba magmamadali para makatakas?


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:47 pm 
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silcRN wrote:
annkarenc wrote:
totoo talaga iyan, maganda lang ang position at malaki ang kita akala mo kung sino na maka-asta, lalo na iyong galing sa hirap at nakapag boyfriend ng may pera sa ibang bansa. noong una matutuwa ka na may pinoy kang kasama sa work pero, it would be better to work alone kaysa akala mong mapagkatiwalaan mo tapos hihilain ka pala pababa. the funny thing is lahat ng lalaki dito nagpapakilalang single! :lol:



^_^ may ganun lahat bah single maam ?ihihihihihi any way tama ka pero case to case din yan dito sa work maayos pakikisama namin manager , supervisors sabi nga nila cno ba hindi mag tulong tulongan kung hindi kami kapwa pilipino...



ay sorry, masyado ako nag generalize haha.... sige most of them nalang :wink:


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:07 pm 
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annkarenc wrote:
silcRN wrote:
annkarenc wrote:
totoo talaga iyan, maganda lang ang position at malaki ang kita akala mo kung sino na maka-asta, lalo na iyong galing sa hirap at nakapag boyfriend ng may pera sa ibang bansa. noong una matutuwa ka na may pinoy kang kasama sa work pero, it would be better to work alone kaysa akala mong mapagkatiwalaan mo tapos hihilain ka pala pababa. the funny thing is lahat ng lalaki dito nagpapakilalang single! :lol:



^_^ may ganun lahat bah single maam ?ihihihihihi any way tama ka pero case to case din yan dito sa work maayos pakikisama namin manager , supervisors sabi nga nila cno ba hindi mag tulong tulongan kung hindi kami kapwa pilipino...



ay sorry, masyado ako nag generalize haha.... sige most of them nalang :wink:



tsaka pala hindi lang guys nag pakilala ng single may iba din females nag papakilala single...hehehehe


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